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Minutes of the regular meeting of August 6,2001 held at Underdown Junior High School, 1642 South 107th Avenue at 7:00 p.m.



Mayor Ronald Drake and Council Members                                         Peggy Jones

                                                                                                            Stephanie Karlin

                                                                                                            Raymond Shuey

                                                                                                            Albert Carroll, Jr

                                                                                                            Betty Lynch

                                                                                                            Marie Lopez Rogers





Mr. Scott Schrader, City Manager

Andrew McGuire, City Attorney



Linda Farris, City Clerk, read a statement regarding public appearances. 


It is the policy of the Mayor and Council not to comment on items brought forth under Unscheduled Public Appearance.  However, staff can be directed to report back to Council at a future date or to schedule items raised for a future Council agenda.



a.      Introduction of Police Chief


Mr. Schrader introduced Steve MacKinnon, the new Police Chief for Avondale.


Mr. Schrader stated that he is very pleased to have someone of Mr. MacKinnon’s caliber on board with the City of Avondale.  He stated everyone is excited to have him.


Mayor Drake asked the Council if they had any questions for Mr. MacKinnon.  He asked him what he saw as his biggest challenge in Avondale and how can they as a council help him.


Mr. MacKinnon stated he was still learning, obviously growth was an issue.


Mayor Drake asked how important it is to have a shooting range.


Mr. MacKinnon stated the ability to have what a range would offer and if it could be located in the perfect location would be good but there are a lot of other ways to address that.  He stated the Department would be looking at the possibility of a range and other things.  He stated they would be going out into the community as well as within the Department to see what their issues are and what they felt were important.


Mr. MacKinnon stated it would be better indoors than outdoors because it would give officers a sense of what they are dealing with out there, although indoors the air must be turned over every 20 minutes due to lead exposure.


Council Member Shuey congratulated him on a great job so far and asked his plans for employing bicycle patrols particularly in the Las Ligas area.


Mr. MacKinnon stated that area is being targeted as well as the downtown area.


Vice Mayor Rogers stated she would like to see more cultural sensitivity training, which has been an issue in the Department in the past.


Mr. MacKinnon stated he would like to work toward a diverse population in officers as well as cultural diversity within the community.


b.      Council procedures

Mr. Schrader stated he had a brief update on the draft of Rules and Procedures for the Council.  He stated there is a lot to go over but he wanted to start the ball rolling.  He suggested adding the item to the agenda early in September because of the many issues and challenges in meetings the rest of this month.



a.       Regular meeting of July 2, 2001

b.      Public Hearing of July 9, 2001

c.       Special meeting of July 9, 2001

d.      Regular meeting of July 16, 2001

e.       Special meeting of July 23, 2001


Council Member Lynch moved to approve the minutes with the corrections.  Council Member  Shuey seconded the motion.  Motion carried unanimously.



a.      Recognition of the Charter Committee


Mayor Drake awarded Certificates of Appreciation to the Charter Committee and thanked them for their hard work.






Items on the consent agenda are of a routine nature or have been previously studied by the City Council at a work session.  They are intended to be acted upon in one motion.  Council Members may pull items from consent if they would like them considered separately.


Council Member Lynch pulled items 6 a,b,h,j,o.  Council Member Jones pulled item 6 p.



            An application for a special event liquor license for the Southwest  Hispanic Culture to be used in conjunction with Mexican Independence Day, September 15, 2001. 



An application for a special event liquor license for the Southwest Valley Chamber of Commerce to be used in conjunction with Billy Moore Days, October 19, 20, and 21, 2001.



Authorization to reschedule the regular council meeting of September 3, 2001 to Tuesday, September 4, 2001. 


            f.          ORDINANCE #810-01– PROPERTY TAX LEVY 2001-2002 FISCAL YEAR

            An ordinance setting the primary and secondary property tax levy for the 2001-2002 fiscal year. 



An ordinance annexing public right-of-way for 115th Avenue between Thomas and McDowell Roads.



            A resolution authorizing an intergovernmental agreement with the City of Phoenix Information Technology Department to provide radio communications support services. 



            An ordinance annexing 20 acres located at the southeast corner of Encanto Blvd and the 103rd Avenue alignment. 



            A resolution supporting the City’s Safe Schools and JOLTS partnership with the City of Phoenix, Maricopa County, the Cities of Chandler and Goodyear, and the Town of Paradise Valley and any other cities that may join the partnership to utilize FY 2001 JAIBG funds and directs the Governor’s Office to deposit the City’s $11,157.00 JAIBG funds into the appropriate Maricopa County Juvenile Probation Dept. account and directs staff to execute necessary documents.



            An ordinance authorizing the Mayor and City Clerk to accept the Assignment and Assumption of Easement along the west side of 115th Avenue from Van Buren Road to approximately 750 feet south of the intersection. 



An application from Kenneth E. Kane, Americrown (PIR), 7602 South 115th Avenue, for a Series 6 On-Sale Retailer’s License to sell all spirituous liquors at Phoenix International Raceway. 


Consent items 6 c,d,e,f,g,i,k,l,m, and n were considered.


Mr. McGuire read resolutions and ordinances for those items by title.  Council Member Lynch moved to approve.  Council Member Karlin seconded the motion.  ROLL CALL VOTE AS FOLLOWS:


Council Member Jones             Aye

Council Member Karlin                        Aye

Council Member Lynch                        Aye

Council Member Shuey                        Aye

Councilman Carroll                               Aye

Vice Mayor Rogers                              Aye

Mayor Drake                                       Aye



Preliminary plat approval from Dan Tobar representing Tobar Engineering, for Los Arbolitos Ranch, a 309 lot single-family residential subdivision located at the southeast corner of 107th Avenue and Thomas. 


Council Member Lynch stated she pulled the two zoning items because it is her understanding from the League presentations that zoning items cannot be on the consent agenda unless they are final plats.  She stated if this were incorrect, she would stand corrected.  She stated that she would like to make some general comments, which applied to all zoning cases before the council at this meeting.  First, she had two questions and asked when the committee code of ethics would be ready for approval.


Mr. Schrader stated that is part of the proposed rules and procedures that was e-mailed to the Council. 


Council Member Lynch stated Mr. Schrader had originally scheduled a meeting with Planning and Zoning for this evening, which was rescheduled and asked when it would be held.


Mr. Zubia, Development Services Director, replied the Commission would like to meet as soon as possible, but given the Council’s busy agenda, the time has not been set yet.


Council Member Lynch read the following statement:


Most of this council, working together, determined we do not want Levittown in Avondale.  We also do not want a city of houses.  We are looking to build a community of homes for families and a community where those families can also work and play.  This means bringing in industry and corporate businesses.


I am displeased to see that the individual, on Planning and Zoning, who recently told this council we had done nothing since coming into office, is now saying in Planning and Zoning meetings that the city and the council is responsible when developers cannot build what they want and make the profits they want.  This is far from the truth.


First, all we have left is the land and that is a precious commodity.  We have the ace.


Developers come in expecting to make a profit and so they should.  However, the city has standards we want to uphold.  We have many citizens to please – some already here and some on they way.


For the past two years we have worked with the developers so they know what we expect and, in many cases, are bringing that product.  In others, they are more than willing to work with us, as they are expected to do in every city, to meet our standards.  Although some may disagree, the Anderson property is a good example of a city, landowner and developer working together.  The product is one we can all be proud of.


A perfect example of the change is another member of Planning and Zoning recently wondered why so many homes going up are small and have small side boundaries. 


Doing his job, Felipe pointed out they were on the books for two years and approved by an earlier administration and Planning and Zoning.  He was surprised because he knew what is approved now.  I’m pleased to see that it is being noticed.


Planning and Zoning is an arm of this Council and, while they certainly don’t have to do everything because we say so, its members are also an arm of the city.  Therefore, they should represent the City when they are discussing Planning and Zoning matters not criticize it.  If that can’t be, then perhaps Council erred in its appointment.


Council Member Lynch stated that there are comments in the Planning and Zoning minutes that hold the Council to some responsibilities as far as knowing that a development is not proceeding. She stated the Council has no way of knowing that unless council is made aware of that by the Development Services Department, so she would hope that by going forward that would come to the Council so if something isn’t happening that the Council needs to know about or needs to do something with, the Council would be made aware.  She stated she also agrees that the Council cannot go back and change zoning that has already passed because then there would be a lawsuit and even the Council can’t do that.  She stated it is the developer’s responsibility to expedite, not the City Council.  She stated the Council could only work with them as they go through and she stated that if anyone had a question, there is a note within stating the Council has this.  She stated she just wanted to bring that out because if nobody advises the Council something isn’t moving forward, they aren’t going to know it.  She stated from the Planning and Zoning notes, it doesn’t look like there are any changes to this development and asked if it is just a change to the type of zoning because it was one that came across wrong.


Mr. Zubia stated there is a change and they are adding an additional 10 acres and the homebuilder changed from DeHaven to Coventry, an arm of Del Webb.  He stated their product is a little bit different and because of that they need a deeper lot, but don’t need as wide of a lot.  He stated the plat has changed from a 55’ wide lot, 98’ deep to a 50’, 110’ and the net difference is an increase in a minimum square foot lot.


Council Member Lynch asked even though the lot has been made narrow, which she is not happy with, the side boundaries as were established will be kept as they move forward.


Mayor Drake asked why they went from 55 to 50.


Mr. Zubia stated each homebuilder has a different product and a short lot and a 55’ wide lot is not a standard size lot for the home building industry, as it is typically 50’ or 55’ by 110’.  He stated Coventry does not have a product to fit on the size lot previously approved on the preliminary plat.


Mayor Drake asked if they couldn’t build homes on a 50’ by 110’ lot.


Mr. Zubia stated yes he could.


Mayor Drake asked then why wouldn’t we want to do that because a percentage of open space would be lost as recommended.


Mr. Zubia stated yes, the open space percentage goes down some and the density goes up, but to the average person driving by the changes are negligible.  He stated that basically it is a comparable development.


Mayor Drake asked what were homes going to sell for originally.


Mr. Zubia deferred the question to the developer, but there was no representative available.


Mayor Drake stated that maybe the Council would want to wait until a representative from Coventry was available so this issue could be discussed.  He asked if Council Member Lynch’s question regarding why this was placed on consent had been addressed.


Mr. Schrader asked Mr. McGuire about the legalities of zoning cases being a part of the consent agenda.


Mr. McGuire stated he was not at the League of Cities presentation.  He said the only Planning and Zoning items he has a problem with being on the consent agenda are those for which there is a public hearing and anything other than that, requiring the normal approval of the Council and where there is unanimous consent of the Council to put it on without discussion would be more of a policy issue whether Planning and Zoning issues were placed on consent.


Mayor Drake stated he would like to have a representative from the homebuilder present to tell the Council what kind of product he is bringing to the community and to tell us why he cannot build a home on a bigger lot.


Council Member Lynch stated according to the documentation, because he was taking the extra depth, needed that to build the number of homes he needed.  She agreed with Mayor Drake and stated they regularly ask that representatives be here for whatever they have on the agenda and she thought they at least owed the Council that.


Mr. Schrader stated this item would be continued to a minimum of August 20.


Councilman Carroll moved that item 6a be continued to a future meeting to be determined.  Council Member Lynch seconded the motion.  Motion carried unanimously.



            Site plan approval for Rancho Santa Fe Center located at the southwest corner of McDowell Road and Rancho Santa Fe Boulevard. 


Council Member Lynch asked if Mr. Reynolds was present and she thanked them for coming to Avondale.  She stated she is familiar with Plaza Del Rio in Peoria and the work that he does and was ecstatic when the sign went on that site even though there were some people who did not want to have lunch with their dentist.   She stated this is one of the best things that had happened to Avondale in a number of years.  Council Member Lynch stated the company builds quality offices and it looks like quality when you go in or drive by.  She stated any other sites they find, she for one would welcome them to Avondale.


Council Member Lynch referred to the list of requirements and asked if the comments of 7-12-01 needed to be addressed.


Mr. Zubia stated the comments were dealing with engineering requirements, such as drainage and grading, to meet the standard.


Council Member Lynch stated she couldn’t tell from the site plan and she couldn’t find an entrance other than on the east side where Ranch Santa Fe Blvd comes in and there is a fire entrance and she asked if that was correct.  She stated she couldn’t tell if it was there only during construction or if there would be an entrance by the apartments on Rancho Santa Fe Blvd.


Mr. Zubia stated that entrance will be full access and there would not be any need to go all the way around the block to get in.


Mayor Drake asked how many covered parking spaces there would be.


Mr. Zubia stated he was not sure.


A Plaza Companies representative stated there would be approximately 75 spaces provided but not necessarily required so it is a high percentage.


Council Member Jones asked if there was going to be a thorough way from McDowell to Rancho Santa Fe Blvd,  so you don’t have to go out onto Dysart to get to Walmart.


Mr. Zubia stated that access would be included in phase two of Palmilla.


Council Member Lynch moved to approve this zoning case.  Council Member Jones seconded the motion.  Motion carried unanimously.



            Authorizing the execution of an agreement with Otis Elevator Company for a five- year elevator maintenance contract for a first year cost of $1,998.60 and each additional year the price will be adjusted annually based on the consumer price index and actual changes in the straight time hourly labor rate.  


Council Member Lynch referred to page 6 of 7 of the contract regarding the 20% discount, stating that down further stated when talking about the index it is 10% and she asked if that was just coincidental.


Chief Adams stated they split the contract price between labor cost and material cost and the usage or 20% reduction is taken from that.


Council Member Lynch asked if it was based on the index of commodity pricing.


Chief Adams stated yes.


Council Member Lynch moved to approve the contract.  Vice Mayor Rogers seconded the motion.  Motion carried unanimously.








            A resolution authorizing an intergovernmental agreement with Maricopa County Library District to continue the Reciprocal Borrowing Program for the Avondale Public Library. 


Council Member Lynch stated she knows Dan Davis was not here when the initial presentation was brought forward but the council was told this would bring in about $20,000 per year in revenue.  She stated when looking at charts, she couldn’t tell if dollar amounts were lesser because not many people were using them or if there may have been an error in the estimate.


Dan Davis, Community Recreation Services Director, replied that the numbers are somewhat misleading because the program was only implemented in April, so there are only a few months of actual documentation.


Mr. McGuire read the resolution by title. Council Member Lynch moved to adopt the resolution.  Vice Mayor Rogers seconded the motion.  ROLL CALL VOTE AS FOLLOWS:



Council Member Jones             Aye

Council Member Karlin                        Aye

Council Member Lynch                        Aye

Council Member Shuey                        Aye

Councilman Carroll                               Aye

Vice Mayor Rogers                              Aye

Mayor Drake                                       Aye



            An application from Randy Nations, Mobil on the Run, 1595 North 115th Avenue, for a Series 10 Off-Sale Retailer’s License to sell beer and wine. 


Council Member Lynch stated after her attendance at a meeting at the Liquor Control Board, she specifically asked that all future applications have the printout from the Liquor Control Board of violations and asked if the attached printout was from that Board or the applicant.


Linda Farris. City Clerk, stated the entire package comes from the Liquor Control Board.


Council Member Lynch stated it comes from the Liquor Control Board because the applicant submits it, but the applicant has to specifically ask the Liquor Control Board to provide a copy of their listing of violations.  She stated the applicant must be aware of that so they include it in the packet because there are major differences between what the applicants are submitting and what the Liquor Control Board shows.


Mr. Schrader asked if she was suggesting that there might be more violations than what is on the list.


Council Member Lynch stated when the City receives the package they need to advise the applicant to provide that information to the City.  She stated she would like to see that in this case because there are 8 violations, two denials, and the applicant applied for this license ten days after the last problem fell off because the violations stay on for one year.  She stated the last three fell off in June, then within 10 days this license had been applied for and the track record seems to be increasingly worse as she reviews the records.  Council Member Lynch stated this is one of the reasons that she wants to see what the Liquor Control Board has.  She stated she knows that some Council Members have felt that the Council was taking away business from applicants, however, she stated that it is not the Council that is taking it away, it is the applicant themselves, by allowing these things to continue to happen.  She stated against her better judgment this was approved by this Council and then was denied by the Liquor Control Board because of the number of violations.  She stated this store is on a major arterial street, close to the highway, there are lots of residents in the area, and there is a school nearby.  She stated she would prefer that the applicant prove that they can stay away from the violations before this is approved and requested a report of what the Liquor Control Board says their violations are.


Nicholas Guttilla, attorney for the applicant, 4150 W Northern, Phoenix stated this applicant has had one liquor violation since July 7, 2000 and prior to that there were several liquor hearings and there were 8 to 10 violations per year.  He stated the difference was because in June of 2000 Exxon and Mobil merged, new personnel took over and new liquor license compliance procedures were implemented.  He stated the proof is there because there had only been one violation in thirteen months versus 8 to 10 every twelve months, which was the reason they were denied.  Mr. Guttilla stated there are currently seven applications pending throughout the valley and the Liquor Board has an informal policy that if any applicant has three or more violations within a 12 month period and a new license is applied for, you must appear before the board and prove that you are qualified, capable, and reliable.  He stated they then look at the applicant’s track record over the previous twelve months and reiterated there has been only 1 violation in 13 months.  He stated staff is trained and re-trained every year for the 47 liquor licenses.  He stated they perform undercover buys, they have swipe machines that read out age, they card anyone appearing below age of 30 and they have demonstrated under new personnel their efforts to train and to penalize by firing people if they violate the law and to reward if the employee passes.  Mr. Guttilla stated the same personnel that had previous violations are not operating the stores.  He said every applicant who files application at the Liquor Department must submit their violations, for example, he gets a computer printout from the Liquor Department to double check and he stated Mr. Nations prepared this report, but he prepares hundreds and, in his view, these are 100% correct.  He stated that no one has ever asked them to submit something in addition to be verified, under oath.


Council Member Karlin asked if the store is waiting to open until they get the liquor license.


Mr. Nations stated yes, that was one of the issues in addition to the drainage issue.


Council Member Lynch moved to deny the liquor license until the Council sees the State report.


Councilman Carroll stated based on the information the City Clerk provided that information comes from the Board.


Mr. Schrader stated staff gets the complete application from the Liquor Board that the applicant has submitted and the question was whether the application is comprehensive and whether the board has a different list of violations that is not in staff’s possession.


Council Member Lynch stated that is the question because what the Chairman of the Board explained was the packets come in from the applicants, the Board takes them and makes copies and sends them out.  She explained that it is the responsibility of the applicant and the City to take it from there, so the City may or may not have a complete packet.  She stated sometimes there are pages missing and that is why the applicant needs to be sure that everything the City has, is everything sent to the Liquor Board because in some cases it has not been and secondly, that the liquor report is attached.


Councilman Carroll seconded the motion to deny.


Council Member Jones asked Mr. Nations and Mr. McGuire if the applicant has submitted everything that was asked of him.


Linda Farris stated that she did not believe that she could request the information, but that the applicant can.


Mr. Nations stated the last time they came before the council, they recommended approval, but the state denied them.  He stated the same packet was submitted to the state and there were no issues brought up about the previous violations, other than there were too many.  He stated they pulled their statistics from the state and if an applicant does not submit all his violations it is because the computer has only two years of violations.


Mayor Drake stated they only had one violation in the past year and he asked how many stores Mr. Nations has.


Mr. Nations stated Mobil on the Run has 47 stores.


Mr. McGuire stated if Council is delaying the liquor license until they get more information , then that is different than a denial.  He explained that if it is a denial then it needs to be forwarded to the Board but if the idea is to ask for more information and bring it back as an agenda item, it should be continued to a date certain.


Council Member Lynch withdrew her motion and moved to continue until August 20th.    Councilman Carroll seconded the motion.  Motion carried 5-2 with Council Member Karlin and Vice Mayor Rogers voting nay.


Mayor Drake asked Council Member Lynch to get with the City Manager so the correct information is brought back to Council.


Council Member Jones wanted to change her vote to nay.  Mr. McGuire stated the item would need to be re-opened and reconsidered. Council Member Jones decided to disregard it at this point.


            p.         RESOLUTION #2257-01- LTAF II  FUNDS - START BUS

A resolution authorizing staff to submit an application for LTAF II funding from the Arizona Department of Transportation and directing staff to conduct all negotiations and execute and submit all documents and any other necessary instruments. 


Council Member Jones asked Mr. Schrader to set up a workshop to look at each route and the performance of routes and a couple of scenarios so the City does not lose the community funded transportation of $12,000 and the LTAF monies that are expected to drop.


Michael Powell, Grants Coordinator , replied there is a five year funding cycle that the legislature has authorized through June 30, 2003.


Council Member Jones stated there are several things happening and she would like to have a couple of plans.


Mr. Powell stated the staff has a meeting scheduled this Wednesday to discuss the various options.


Mr. Schrader stated that meeting would allow the staff to prepare for a Council workshop on the subject.  He noted staff received word last week that the City is in line to receive $69,780 as opposed to the original $49,000.


Mr. Powell stated the staff wanted to make sure this resolution was brought to Council because timing was everything and he wanted to move this forward.


Council Member Jones stated it is a subject that is important and she would hate to see the residents lose services.


Council Member Shuey asked if there was a possibility of doing a survey to find out what City the residents riding the express buses are from because he felt the other cities should step forward when their citizens are utilizing the routes.


Mr. McGuire read the resolution by title. Vice Mayor Rogers moved to adopt this resolution.  Councilman Carroll seconded the motion. ROLL CALL VOTE AS FOLLOWS:



Council Member Jones             Aye

Council Member Karlin                        Aye

Council Member Lynch                        Aye

Council Member Shuey                        Aye

Councilman Carroll                               Aye

Vice Mayor Rogers                              Aye

Mayor Drake                                       Aye




            A representative from Cox Cable will address the Council and answer questions.


Mr. Schrader requested to continue this agenda item to August 20 to allow Cox Cable additional time to prepare.



Authorization to execute a revised Internet access agreement with Amerion for $11,388.00 per year. 


Mr. Schrader stated this was to provide information regarding the transfer of ownership of the company providing service to the City.


Tim Greene, Information Systems Director, addressed the Council.  He reviewed the changes within this contract, which include providing better access to the network along with security features.  He stated staff felt it was a good time to upgrade this system and still stay within the budget.


Council Member Karlin moved to approve the contract.  Council Member Jones seconded the motion.  Motion carried unanimously.



Authorization for renewal of a consulting agreement in the amount of $96,000.00 with Parry, Romani & Deconcini for the 2001-2002 fiscal year. 


Mr. Schrader outlined this agreement.  He stated that based on prior discussion held, some issues have been addressed such as making sure the City is getting monthly reports from the consulting firm providing an update on their activities and what they are doing on the City’s behalf.  He stated the recommendation is, toward the end of this fiscal year, that the City look at going out for a request for proposals to see if there are any other firms that might be interested in providing this service.


Vice Mayor Rogers stated she would like to look at enhancing the Intergovernmental Affairs position and perhaps adding staff to that position.  She stated that by doing so possibly the staff could do more of the services the consulting firm is performing.


Mr. Schrader stated when the staff puts together the scope of services, they will be cognizant of the respective roles and responsibilities of the Intergovernmental function and the role of the consultant and will take that into consideration as they put together what they are seeking to try to get the right blend of services.


Council Member Karlin asked what is going on at the federal level as the City has a contract with Parry and Romani.  She stated Mr. Ober is here locally and doing the local legislation and the City is requesting on a monthly basis what is being done, but she would still like to know what is being done on the federal level.


Mr. Schrader stated the past practice has been to have an agreement with the firm of Parry, Romani, and Deconcini as well as Mr. Ober’s group, Policy Development Group,  and both are providing services for the total amount of $96,000.  He stated they internally figure how they divide the funds received based on their proportionate share of work done.  Mr. Schrader stated in terms of the federal side, congress is in recess and will be back in September and the firm is working on trying to get Representatives Stump and Pastor and Senator Kyle to lobby on the City’s behalf before the Veteran’s Administration, HUD Committee, which is the group the City is looking at in terms of being a potential financial conduit for the funds it is seeking to make some improvements to the older neighborhoods.  He stated that is one of the projects they have been working on and up to 3 million dollars have been requested.  Mr. Schrader stated once congress is back in session they will continue to work on having representatives in Washington doing what they can to see if the City can get upwards of 3 million dollars for improvements.  He stated they are also working on making sure the City is in the best position possible with respect to securing funding for the Army Corp of Engineers, the proposed project to restore the Aqua Fria River.  He stated they are also working with the IG to monitor the START funding process.


Council Member Karlin expressed her concern at the local level because the firm also contracts with other cities and she is concerned with the possibility that the City might be going after the same piece of the pie, so to speak.  She was wondering about completive interest because other cities are represented by the same firm.


Mr. Schrader stated he has discussed the issue with other city managers as well as Mr. Ober and they are determined to work out something acceptable to all parties and fortunately the issue had not yet arisen.  He stated if it does, then it is another reason to go out and look to see if there are other consulting firms who would be able to provide good service for a reasonable price.  He stated they would give weights to all criteria and decide which firm to use.


Council Member Lynch stated when she reads through their reports, they are very bland and do not change verbally from month to month.  She stated he is being paid to do the job and she is not comfortable with the results.  She stated they have talked about what the IG can do, but that he can be spread so thin and there are certain contacts that need to be made and the Deconcini group is spreading themselves thinner and thinner.  Council Member Lynch stated she does not have as much concern about conflicts of interest as she does with how thin they are spreading themselves and how many masters they can serve.  She stated that part of her concern is in some of the cities they serve there is an old boy network that they work with and there are some old friendships from the legislature or wherever and that is not true in Avondale. She stated some of the other cities, who just hired them, may find the same thing as they move along, so the only way she would agree to approve this is if the City goes out for an RFP and before budget time have a response from staff about what has been found.


Council Member Lynch moved to approve the agreement with the stipulation that staff come back no later than February with an RFP and then no later than May with a recommendation item on the agenda.  Council Member Karlin seconded the motion.  Motion carried unanimously.



            A motion to reconsider zoning case Z99-389A and direct staff to review and forward the amended application to the Planning and Zoning Commission to be scheduled for consideration at future public hearings.


Mr. Schrader stated this item deals with a zoning case that was denied by City Council in March of last year and deals with property that is located at the southeast corner of Lower Buckeye and El Mirage Roads.  He stated one of the reasons for Council’s denial was concern of the potential impact of this proposed new subdivision on a nearby dairy farm and the City has received information from the dairy farm owner that their prior objections to the project have waned.  He stated this is a revised plan that may be acceptable the City.


Mr. Zubia stated that introduction summarizes the motion before the Council.  He stated if the Council decides to move forward it would take a motion, by one of the members who previously voted to deny, for reconsideration of a motion.


Council Member Lynch asked if the City has anything in writing from the dairy farmer.


Mr. Zubia stated he had received a call from Mr. Pyleman, the dairy farmer, stating that he was not aggressively against it, but that he still has issues to work out with the developer.


Council Member Lynch stated she would like to receive something in writing before they continue.


Mr. Zubia stated the staff had anticipated receiving a letter, but since they didn’t, they have it scheduled for the next Planning and Zoning commission and the item will be continued until they receive definitive support from the property owner.


Council Member Lynch moved to continue until information from Mr. Pyleman was received.  Vice Mayor Rogers seconded the motion.  Motion carried unanimously.






An ordinance rezoning approximately 11.10 acres located approximately 1/3 mile north of Van Buren Street and east of El Mirage Road, from AG to R1-35.


Mr. Schrader stated this was for consideration of an agricultural district designation to a single- family residential district located 1/3 mile north of Van Buren Street and east of El Mirage Road.


Mr. Zubia stated that this request was from Millie Henderson to rezone her property from Agriculture to R135.  He stated the Council will see a few of these cases relating back to the zoning ordinance text amendment that will deal with the issue of how the City annexes new properties and then assigns a zoning district following the annexation.  He stated the way the ordinance is written and the way it is applied is any newly annexed lands are agriculture as soon as they are brought into the City.  Mr. Zubia explained that after discussions with the City Attorney and the Planning Division, it was determined that section of the zoning ordinance is in violation of statutory requirements to rezone the property within thirty days to it’s most comparable zoning district as it had in the County.  He stated this case fell into that category, the property was annexed in 1978 and at that point it was zoned agriculture, when in fact the zoning ordinance in the county was rural 43.  He stated what that did was not only violate the state statute, but also violated the right of the property owner for due process to be heard at a public hearing for the rezoning and when the property owner came forward to build two homes on the property, at that time it was brought to her attention that she did not have the proper zoning.  Mr. Zubia stated that after she provided the documentation that within the County she did have the appropriate zoning, it has been an internal staff policy that if the verification has been presented, staff would initiate the zoning process and zone it to the most closely zoned district as in the County.  He stated if the applicant wants it zoned to anything different, then it would be their request , not the City’s.  He stated a text amendment would be brought forth to not only strike the provision, but to add an additional zoning district that would create the rural, residential 43,000 sq. foot minimum lot size in order to provide the transition zone from the County.  


Mayor Drake asked if homes are already there.


Mr. Zubia stated the property is currently being farmed.


Mayor Drake stated he felt it would be an excellent site for commercial development and questioned that they are going to make it into two homes.


Mr. Zubia stated what is actually being brought forward is the zoning, not the approval of the homes.  He stated that concern was brought forward by the Planning and Zoning Commission and was also a concern of staff but given the way the property was rezoned in the past, it was incumbent on the City to process a rezone that was comparable to what was legally on the property prior to being annexed.  He stated with the concern being raised at the Commission, the response was any non-residential user that is attracted to the area once the infrastructure is in place is not going to be deterred by a couple of homes that can easily be removed.  He stated the homes would be going in and the applicant understands that it would be more marketable for non-residential use.


Council Member Lynch asked if this will not be a non-conforming use because this is what she already had.


Mr. Zubia stated that was correct and they are giving the property the appropriate zoning that she had in the county.


Council Member Lynch asked if they are only making it what it should have been when the property was annexed.


Mr. Zubia stated that was correct.


Council Member Lynch asked how much of the 11 acres would be used for the two homes.


Mr. Zubia stated 2 acres of the 11 acres and it has already been split into 2-1 acre parcels and a 9 acre parcel and she will not be able to split the remaining 9 acres unless she brings in a subdivision plat.


Council Member Lynch asked if the City can put any stipulation into this that the owner will not stop any industry or commercial that goes around them.


Mr. McGuire stated a stipulation that bound a property owner to have no protest rights in the future would not be enforceable.  He stated one of the things that is unclear about this case is the provision in the zoning ordinance that states upon annexation everything comes in as agricultural and within 30 days a zoning case must be initiated, which will change the zoning to the appropriate zoning.  He stated it has been the policy of the City to bring in annexed property roughly at what they had in the county, but it is not state law that it come in that way.  He stated it is state law that it not be given a zoning more dense than what they had in the county, so the improper procedure is that the zoning ordinance provision of initiating a rezone within 30 days did not take place, so the property has remained agricultural for a period that it would not have if the City had followed normal procedure.


Council Member Lynch asked since the property owner did not take advantage of the 30 day window, is the City required to do it now.


Mr. McGuire stated it is more of a mandatory provision for the City to initiate the rezone in 30 days. 


Council Member Lynch asked if there was any way the City can protect itself in the future.


Mr. McGuire stated this is the reason for pre-annexation development agreements, to agree to what the zoning will be after the annexation. 


Council Member Karlin asked since the property owner is the one coming forward because she wants individual homes, is there any chance the City could ask her to sign a letter that she is aware of the possibility that commercial might come in around her.


Mr. McGuire stated in terms of enforceability, it does not change anything from the previous response but that in terms of notice it may if there is a letter on record from the property owner stating she understands this is going to be a commercial corridor and in the future there may be commercial properties nearby.  He stated having on record that there is notice of a potential conflict is fine.


Council Member Jones stated it would be best to have a letter stating surrounding circumstances so the City does not get an “I didn’t know” years from now.


Council Member Shuey asked about the remaining 9 acres and a reversion clause where if buildings are not constructed on the property within a certain amount of time the zoning is reverted. 


Mr. McGuire stated there is certainly the ability of the Council to put a reversion clause on  a zoning ordinance and it would be a condition subsequent that if it wasn’t met would force the Council to put it back on the agenda to be revisited at a later date if development did not take place.


Mayor Drake asked for public comments as this was a public hearing.


No comments were received.


Mr. McGuire read the ordinance by title.  Council Member Lynch moved to approve ordinance with the stipulation that a letter to Ms. Henderson stating that she is aware of the zoning around her and that there may be industry or commercial and with an added reversion clause to the zoning that the balance of the property would be reverted if not used.  Council Member Karlin seconded the motion.  ROLL CALL VOTE AS FOLLOWS:


Council Member Jones             Aye

Council Member Karlin                        Aye

Council Member Lynch                        Aye

Council Member Shuey                        Aye

Councilman Carroll                               Aye

Vice Mayor Rogers                              Aye

Mayor Drake                                       Aye



An ordinance rezoning for Garden Trails approximately 39.36 acres located at the southwest corner of 115th Avenue and Thomas Road, from AG to R1-6 PADD. 


Mr. Schrader stated this property was previously zoned and had a preliminary plat approved while still under the jurisdiction of Maricopa County and the proposed development is for 145 lots of single-family development.


Mr. Zubia stated the final plat has come before the Council and was approved.  He stated this proposed zoning is the zoning that was presented at that time.


Council Member Lynch asked why the City couldn’t do some annexations up front rather than having the site approvals happen in the County, not meeting the necessary requirements of the Council and then the City has to take them as annexations because they are in the middle of something or they need the infrastructure to build. 


Mr. Zubia stated it is a series of compromises with the property owner because the property owner must sign off to come into the City and typically they won’t unless they have some assurances that they have some development rights.  He stated what is being done at staff level is anyone who is coming forward is being told that unless they come in with what the City is looking for in this area the City will not annex them and therefore they will not receive City services.


Council Member Lynch stated the Council in Litchfield Park is not annexing property, just because the County approves it.  She stated they just need to find their own infrastructure to operate.


Mr . Zubia stated the landowners are wanting to get the City on board before they go that route because they understand it is a dangerous road to go down.


.  Mayor Drake asked for comments from the public, as this was a public hearing.


No comments were received.


Mr. McGuire read the ordinance by title.  Vice Mayor Rogers moved to adopt the ordinance.  Council Member Karlin seconded the motion.  ROLL CALL VOTE AS FOLLOWS:



Council Member Jones             Aye

Council Member Karlin                        Aye

Council Member Lynch                        Aye

Council Member Shuey                        Aye

Councilman Carroll                               Aye

Vice Mayor Rogers                              Aye

Mayor Drake                                       Aye



An ordinance amending Section 101.G of the Avondale Zoning Ordinance to bring it consistent with Arizona Revised Statutes regarding newly annexed lands. 


Mr. McGuire read the Ordinance by title.  Council Member Lynch moved to adopt the ordinance. Council Member Shuey seconded the motion.  ROLL CALL VOTE AS FOLLOWS:



Council Member Jones             Aye

Council Member Karlin                        Aye

Council Member Lynch                        Aye

Council Member Shuey                        Aye

Councilman Carroll                               Aye

Vice Mayor Rogers                              Aye

Mayor Drake                                       Aye






An ordinance amending Sections 1 and 2 by creating a rural residential district. 


Mr. Schrader stated that this is a proposed amendment to provide for the creation of the new rural residential zoning district.  He stated this would promote and encourage low density residential growth, serves as a buffer between more dense developments in the community, and helps deals with some of the transition issues from the County to the City if it is annexed.


Mr. Zubia stated there was a request to provide additional information on a matrix and what cities were studied and that was provided to the council.  He summarized by stating staff tried to create a rural district that would be more of the transition zone and not call it a residential or single family residential as classified R1 and this will be classified as RR.  He stated the reason for that is to make sure it is a transition zone, for instance in areas such as Glen Arm Farms or Holly Acres.  Mr. Zubia stated these areas would come in to the City as RR versus the R1, which is what the Anderson property is zoned as.   He stated the difference is to provide for the carryover of the rural uses, such as equestrian and farm animal on this type of zoning district.  He stated staff is recommending the amendment of the zoning ordinance to create this zoning district for that purpose.


Council Member Shuey referred to permitted uses where it provides for no more than two swine, except for pot bellied pigs and asked why not limit the number of pot bellied pigs.


Mr. Zubia stated the difference in the pigs is for marketing and the pot-bellied pigs are for breeding and not for slaughter.


Mayor Drake asked why there is no limit on fowl.


Mr. Zubia stated the provision is to provide for the transition from the County to the City and the intent is to come back and deal with one acre lots and deal with those issues in the text amendment.


Council Member Lynch stated it looks like they are creating long, narrow acres in this case.


Mr. Zubia stated this is strictly used for subdivision purposes and the transition and the lots out there are long and narrow.


Council Member Lynch stated the side yard set back is 20-40 and asked Mr. Zubia to explain that.


Mr. Zubia explained that 20’ is the minimum and 40’ is the total so it is 20’ on each side.


Council Member Lynch stated Beazer has a site in Waddell and she is familiar with people who have bought there and they are one acre sites that are more square.  She stated that one of the problems that they are having is their side yards are either 30’ or 35’ and she would like to see the City go to at least that because people are complaining that they are too close.  She stated they are saying 75 feet from the house, but that is on a straight line, so they still need to get the spread. Council Member Lynch stated that if there is 35’ on each side of the boundary, then that is 70 feet, which is better than just 40 feet, between this agriculture.  She stated she still thought it remained agriculture, but she would rather see a wider spread on the side boundaries. 


Council Member Lynch referred to the discussion about a side street and stated that she assumes that is where there is a side boundary on the street.  She stated she would like the side yard be equivalent to the back.


Councilman Carroll asked if the City would be infringing on the rights of the property owner saying where to place the home.


Council Member Lynch stated they are talking about the neighbor’s boundary, not their own.


Mr. Zubia stated that the intent is not to zone or plat a one-acre lot subdivision and that staff will come back at a later date to present a zoning district that would create the one-acre lot zoning district.  He stated in this specific case, rather than dealing with the specific setbacks across the board, maybe Council can entertain increasing setbacks for things that would cause a nuisance for adjacent homeowners.  


Council Member Lynch asked if what he was saying was to leave it at 20’ and then when you do the R1 the stronger stipulations can be put in to protect the homeowners.


Mr. Zubia stated yes.


Mr. McGuire read the ordinance by title.  Council Member Lynch moved to adopt the ordinance.  Councilman Carroll seconded the motion.  ROLL CALL VOTE AS FOLLOWS:


Council Member Jones             Aye

Council Member Karlin                        Aye

Council Member Lynch                        Aye

Council Member Shuey                        Aye

Councilman Carroll                               Aye

Vice Mayor Rogers                              Aye

Mayor Drake                                       Aye




Award of a contract to Kirkham Michael Consulting Engineers for the design of Las Ligas and Rio Vista Road Improvements in the amount of $265,900.00 and authorizing the execution of said agreement. 


Mr. Schrader reviewed the contract award.


Dave Fitzhugh, City Engineer, stated this is dependent on the Arizona Department of Transportation and their process.  He stated subsequent to the approval of this contract, it is submitted to ADOT, who puts it together with an IGA, which is returned to the City for presentation to the Council and requested approval of the IGA. 


Council Member Lynch stated there is a $12,000 difference between the staff report and the letter and asked if that was coming out throughout the package or in one area.


Mr. Fitzhugh stated the signed letter is correct and they have a contract.


Council Member Lynch moved to approve the contract.  Council Member Shuey seconded the motion.  Motion carried unanimously.



Council will discuss items listed below and possibly give direction to city staff to research and prepare item for future meeting.


a.      Council Member appointments to the Planning and Zoning Commission – Council Member Lynch


Council Member Lynch stated she did not intend to point out that this Council might have done something illegal and that she had been told that everything done meets the open meeting law.  She pointed out that the Council cares about results, like homes and businesses to work at, not just houses.  She stated what she is trying to do is simply establish a standard for appointing committees, boards and commissions.  Council Member Lynch stated that for example, the Council interviewed for Planning and Zoning, then voted later by phone and by mail,  and appointed whoever applied to CIP, PAC, Recreation, and Charter without interviews.  She stated the Charter Committee was really a stroke of luck, CIP in her district had consistent absences, which she contacted staff and let them know about, but nothing was done and because of that, she did not feel that her district had proper representation on CIP.  She stated on PAC she requested at least 3 times for all of the names to be included in one of the Council packets and she has not had a response, recreation people have not yet met but they wanted to be on that committee.  She stated every time the staff has a list of names they have to come to the Council, and don’t know what the Council wants because sometimes they interview and sometimes they don’t.  She stated she was just trying to establish a standard to appoint the people.


Mayor Drake asked Mr. Schrader if he had received the request for members of the PAC.


Mr. Schrader stated he did not remember the PAC request.


Mayor Drake asked if he could provide that tomorrow (Tuesday).


Vice Mayor Rogers asked if this would be addressed within the Council’s policy and procedures.


Mr. Schrader stated yes there is a section regarding that, but further discussion could take place to see what Council’s position was.


Councilman Carroll agreed with Council Member Lynch and stated that he appreciated her efforts and thoughts toward a standard so that staff will know automatically where Council is coming from and that will filter out into the community, which is what Council is looking for when they go out and ask for positions to be filled.


Council Member Shuey commented that having read through the draft policies and procedures, he likes the way the staff has drafted the idea of having a subcommittee and he would like to discuss it at a future meeting.


Mayor Drake asked when it would be brought forth.


Mr. Schrader stated it would probably be early September and encouraged any comments from the Council between now and when the meeting is scheduled, so staff can do any additional research needed.



There being no further business to come before the Council, Council Member Karlin moved to adjourn.  Council Member Shuey seconded the motion.  Motion carried unanimously.


Meeting adjourned at 9:13 p.m.








                                                                        Mayor Drake



Linda M. Farris, CMC

     City Clerk




I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Avondale held on the 6th day of August, 2001.  I further certify that the meeting was duly called and held and that a quorum was present.




                              City Clerk